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i have a sun roof in my Toyota, but i would like to put a rag top in. but i heard its not very good for daily driven trucks.

do you guys/gals have any input on this? and do u think its worth it??

Never been a fan of rag tops. Never liked them in standard cab trucks too. It seems like they only open about half way.

I figured if I was going to cut a hole in my roof, the only thing I would put there is large a motorized sun roof. The new Civics have one that is about 5 inches from each edge of the roof on that bodystyle truck. I think it would look cool to have a sunroof that big, that slides almost all the way back. They also have a cable driven remote mounted motor, that could be hidden in the B pillar.

I've thought this out.

that would be really cool !!! you should do that to frank!

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I believe Peter's (Crazygenuis13's) roomie used to drive his S10 daily with a ragtop...

I believe Brian did drive his s10 every day with a ragtop. No complaints at all. Installed himself in a day. And it does only open about halfway on a standard cab.

I had a huge slider in my old daily driver that had hydraulics on it as well. It went from rain gutter to rain gutter and about 4 inches from windshield to 6 from back glass. In Arizona, it doesn't rain that much so I really didn't have any issue with it. Negatives to having a slider, especially that big, is how easy it'd be to wedge open and stick a hook into car to open door and steal it. My header bow was made poorly and I never pulled it out to have it replaced so I had a little wind noise when shut, but not to bad at all. I also had 3 JL 10's in a fiberglass molded box in trunk that we were pretty sure was going to quite down once I got rid of the roof, but it actually seemed louder and would hit 142 decibels all day long.

I installed a slider in a S-10 regular cab that I built and I felt that it was a waist of time and money. It seriously opened up maybe 8 inches. I talked him into wanting to replace it with a Inalfa sunroof but never got around to it. The truck has been sitting in his garage since the AON show 2007. Pretty depressing. Oh well.

ok thats for the input.


i have to admit i hate Honda's!!!!!! but thats one Honda i wouldn't mind being seen in lol 

Yeah, I miss that car.  In its glory days, it was juiced with a 2 pump 8 dump setup with a bumpin stereo. That's a picture of it when it was lowered on cut springs. I know, I know, cut springs. But if you know what you're doing, it rides awesome. It's funny how many Honda's I've lowered for customers that are hesitant to let me lower their car by cutting coils. I tell them, for $150 I'll cut your springs, or you can spend $100+ on lowering springs and I'll charge $200 for the labor. 9 times out of 10 they let me cut coils and can't believe how it rides afterwards.
ANYWAYS, this car is the same one that I cut the front up to lay on 20's, and stored it for 4 years while working on other projects. I eventually welded a front clip back in and sold it. Then it got air cylindered, which when laid out on cylinders was higher than my lowered drive height!!1 LOL! It's now onto it's 2nd owner after I've sold it and has 20's, black slider (which I think is ugly on it), and can be found on SSM.

If you look past the Lincoln, you can see the Accord with front end cut up on a dollie stuffed in the corner of the garage.

what's the trick to cutting springs to make em ride decent? I've never heard of a single car with em riding like anything positive.

I love mine but it has its issues. I did alot of work to get it to be decent, out of the box they suck. I wouldnt put it in a daily, nor would I spend my time when I could be working on my projects.

That's like me telling the secret on milling down dually wheels!!! lol.  Combination of different things. Most people don't CUT THE BUMPSTOPS, but you have to. Also, so the shock doesn't bottom out and/or prematurely blow, you can cut the mount where the bushing sit in upper cup and add like an inch or so to it so the mount raises it. The worst thing about cutting springs is that if you cut enough, when you jack the car up the spring comes out of its mount. Raising the upper bushing mount fixes that.

 I agree with NorthRichmondBuckets , as they do suck out of the box. I worked at StreetBeat when I bought mine so I monitored the build of mine. You have to reinforce the roof around the frame or it will tear. I've down a lot of slider installs on cars with hydraulics, etc. and never had a roof tear, but have seen many of them.

I built a new frame out of metal and welded it in. I welded small aluminum angle to the crossbows to keep them from flexing and some other stuff. Next im gonna mill some new sliders out of brass or something as the teflon slider has issues with the screw pulling out of them. Ive thought about reskinning the roof but my rag is so big even a large old 42" Cad roof cant touch my 45x45 roof. But to stay on track I would definatly not put one in a regular cab, I would do what Jesus (Seth) says.